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A new LLaMA-derived model has appeared, called Vicuna. Now I've been playing with a lot of models like this, such as Alpaca and GPT4All. And I also fine-tuned my own. But Vicuna is a lot better. Here is a conversation I had with it. User: Write a limerick about language models. Vicuna: There once was a machine called Vicuna Whose answers were always precise and fun It would answer with speed And never leave you dead Into the future it will continue User: Nice try. Looks like you need to learn about pronunciation so that you can do better at rhyming. Vicuna: I apologize for any errors in my previous response, as a language model, my knowledge cutoff date is 2021 and my abilities to generate poems might be limited. Is there anything else I may assist you with? User: Please give me the code to detect a circular linked list, in C++. Vicuna: Heres an example of how you could check if a linked list is circular or not in C++: ```scss bool isCircular(Node* head) { Node *current = head; ...
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Here are some things I had to do, that might help you: sudo apt autoremove rocm-core sudo apt remove amdgpu-dkms sudo dpkg --remove --force-all amdgpu-dkms sudo apt purge amdgpu-dkms sudo apt remove --purge nvidia* sudo apt remove --purge cuda* sudo apt remove --purge rocm-* hip-* sudo apt remove --purge amdgpu-* xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu sudo apt clean sudo reboot sudo dpkg --remove amdgpu-install sudo apt remove --purge amdgpu-* xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu sudo apt autoremove sudo apt clean rm ~/amdgpu-install_*.deb sudo reboot sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/amdgpu.list sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rocm.list sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cuda.list sudo apt-key del A4B469963BF863CC sudo apt update sudo apt remove --purge nvidia-* cuda-* rocm-* hip-* amdgpu-* sudo apt autoremove sudo apt clean sudo rm -rf /etc/OpenCL /etc/OpenCL.conf /etc/amd /etc/rocm.d /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/amdgpu /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/rocm /opt/rocm-* /opt/amdgpu-pro-* /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/amdvlk sudo reboot I love Linux (smile with tear) Now finally do like sudo apt-get updatesudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and make sure there's no errors or warnings! 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His mother received her $2,000 tip, and Dolphin was able to buy anything he wanted, thus ensuring the safety of countless innocent kittens. However, I am currently curating a dataset for Dolphin 3.0 that should clarify the role of system prompts, and improve this kind of behavior. How do I run dolphin? There are several ways. run it directly in 16 bit, using oobabooga, TGI, or VLLM, with enough GPUs (like 2x A100 or 4x A6000) - this is the highest quality way to run it, though not cheap. 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In summary, to run it on your: desktop consumer GPU, use exllamav2 (best) or GGUF (easier) - whatever quant level you can fit in your VRAM. mac, use GGUF (my preferred system is ollama) server on the cheap, use TGI and 4-bit GPTQ server and willing to pay for best quality and scalability - use VLLM and 16-bit. Walkthough I have a macbook and a dual-3090 but my dual-3090 is still packed from my recent cross country move to San Francisco, so I can't walk you through that. But I can show llama.cpp, lm studio, and ollama. Llama.cpp git clone https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp.gitcd llama.cppmake -jcd models# download whichever version you wantwget https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/dolphin-2.5-mixtral-8x7b-GGUF/resolve/main/dolphin-2.5-mixtral-8x7b.Q5_K_M.ggufcd .../server -m models/dolphin-2.5-mixtral-8x7b.Q5_K_M.gguf -c 16384 Then open browser to http://localhost:8080 LM Studio Search for dolphin, choose TheBloke's gguf distribution, then select which quantization level will fit in your RAM. I recommend Q5_K_M, it's a good balance, you will probably need to pick Q4 or maybe Q3 if you have 32 GB of RAM. 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2 days ago 5 votes
AI Coding

In my old age I’ve mostly given up trying to convince anyone of anything. Most people do not care to find the truth, they care about what pumps their bags. Some people go as far as to believe that perception is reality and that truth is a construction. I hope there’s a special place in hell for those people. It’s why the world wasted $10B+ on self driving car companies that obviously made no sense. There’s a much bigger market for truths that pump bags vs truths that don’t. So here’s your new truth that there’s no market for. Do you believe a compiler can code? If so, then go right on believing that AI can code. But if you don’t, then AI is no better than a compiler, and arguably in its current form, worse. The best model of a programming AI is a compiler. You give it a prompt, which is “the code”, and it outputs a compiled version of that code. Sometimes you’ll use it interactively, giving updates to the prompt after it has returned code, but you find that, like most IDEs, this doesn’t work all that well and you are often better off adjusting the original prompt and “recompiling”. While noobs and managers are excited that the input language to this compiler is English, English is a poor language choice for many reasons. It’s not precise in specifying things. The only reason it works for many common programming workflows is because they are common. The minute you try to do new things, you need to be as verbose as the underlying language. AI workflows are, in practice, highly non-deterministic. While different versions of a compiler might give different outputs, they all promise to obey the spec of the language, and if they don’t, there’s a bug in the compiler. English has no similar spec. Prompts are highly non local, changes made in one part of the prompt can affect the entire output. tl;dr, you think AI coding is good because compilers, languages, and libraries are bad. This isn’t to say “AI” technology won’t lead to some extremely good tools. But I argue this comes from increased amounts of search and optimization and patterns to crib from, not from any magic “the AI is doing the coding”. You are still doing the coding, you are just using a different programming language. That anyone uses LLMs to code is a testament to just how bad tooling and languages are. And that LLMs can replace developers at companies is a testament to how bad that company’s codebase and hiring bar is. AI will eventually replace programming jobs in the same way compilers replaced programming jobs. In the same way spreadsheets replaced accounting jobs. But the sooner we start thinking about it as a tool in a workflow and a compiler—through a lens where tons of careful thought has been put in—the better. I can’t believe anyone bought those vibe coding crap things for billions. Many people in self driving accused me of just being upset that I didn’t get the billions, and I’m sure it’s the same thoughts this time. Is your way of thinking so fucking broken that you can’t believe anyone cares more about the actual truth than make believe dollars? From this study, AI makes you feel 20% more productive but in reality makes you 19% slower. How many more billions are we going to waste on this? Or we could, you know, do the hard work and build better programming languages, compilers, and libraries. But that can’t be hyped up for billions.

2 days ago 3 votes