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Ever since contactless travel became the norm, people have got used to swanning round London without knowing what their journey costs. Swipe, travel, swipe, and somewhere around four the next morning your bank balance is adjusted by the requisite total. The capital's fare system is remarkably complex, especially since tube prices and rail prices were merged into an awkward zonal system and warped by annual increases. But I wonder how many Londoners realise quite how different the fares for very similar journeys can be, and so are paying way more than they think. • The TfL fare scale includes Underground, Overground, DLR and Elizabeth line, i.e. pretty much everything operated by TfL. It also includes various rail lines which are treated as if they're TfL lines, including Chiltern Railways out of Marylebone and c2c out of Fenchurch Street. • The rail fare scale covers South West Railways, Southern and Southeastern, plus outer parts of Thameslink and Great Northern. On this map the lines where you pay the TfL fare scale are coloured blue (tube), orange (Overground), green (DLR) and purple (Crossrail). The lines where you pay the rail fare scale are coloured red. And the bad news for people in south London is that red fares are generally rather higher than blue. n.b. It's much more complicated than this but I'm keeping it simple. I've ignored Southeastern High Speed, I've ignored the premium you pay to go to Heathrow, I've ignored Southern trains to Watford Junction, I've ignored the Greater Anglia off-peak anomaly, I've ignored daily caps, I've ignored a lot of things. Oyster fares website, along with a full explanation of all the complex caveats I've skipped over. Thanks Mike. Zone 1-2 peakoff-peak Brixton - VictoriaVictoria line£3.50£2.90 Brixton - VictoriaNational Rail£3.90£3.20 fare difference+11%+10% Zone 1-3 peakoff-peak Wood Green - King's CrossPiccadilly line£3.80£3.10 Alex' Palace - King's CrossNational Rail£4.60£3.70 fare difference+21%+19% Zone 1-4 peakoff-peak Morden - King's CrossNorthern line£4.60£3.40 Morden South - King's CrossNational Rail£5.30£4.00 fare difference+15%+18% Zone 1-5 peakoff-peak High Barnet - King's CrossNorthern line£5.20£3.60 New Barnet - King's CrossNational Rail£6.60£4.40 fare difference+27%+22% Zone 1-6 peakoff-peak Uxbridge - King's CrossMetropolitan line£5.80£3.80 Orpington - King's CrossNational Rail£8.50£5.20 fare difference+47%+37% Unexpectedly journeys avoiding Zone 1 vary even more. Zone 3-4 peakoff-peak Woolwich - Custom HouseElizabeth line£2.30£2.10 Woolwich Arsenal - Woolwich DockyardNational Rail£3.60£3.00 fare difference+57%+43% Zone 2-6 peakoff-peak Mile End - EppingCentral line£3.60£2.40 Clapham Jn - SurbitonNational Rail£5.50£3.90 fare difference+53%+63% But where things get really expensive is if your journey combines the blue and red scales, i.e. with a bit of one and a bit of the other. A completely different fare scale exists for journeys that mix tube and rail and it's even more expensive. To be clear that's not every rail line, it's mostly those in south London, but combining modes can really mount up. • The TfL+rail fare scale applies to journeys combining a TfL service and a National Rail service. Zone 1-2 peakoff-peak Brixton - VictoriaNational Rail£3.90£3.20 Brixton - Oxford CircusNR + Victoria£5.90£5.10 fare difference+51%+59% Of course in this case, from Brixton, you could just have taken the Victoria line all the way. This would have been £2.90 because that's what an off-peak z1-2 tube fare costs. But by taking a train and then the tube you'd be paying £5.10, i.e. 76% more than the equivalent tube journey. off-peak tube train tube+train z1-2£2.90 £3.20 +10%£5.10 +76% z1-3£3.10 £3.70 +19%£5.40 +74% z1-4£3.40 £4.00 +18%£5.90 +74% z1-5£3.60 £4.40 +22%£6.30 +75% z1-6£3.80 £5.20 +37%£7.00 +84% tube, train and a bit of both. As you can see the tube is cheapest (remember this includes DLR, Overground and Elizabeth line). Taking the train the equivalent distance is dearer, generally by about 20% (remember this is generally trains in south London). And the absolute horror show is a journey combining tube and train for which you'll be charged a whopping premium of approximately 75%. Ouch, three quarters more! a single zone 1-6 journeypeakoff-peak Upminster - King's Crosstube£5.80£3.80 Enfield Chase - King's CrossNational Rail£6.60£4.40 Kingston - King's CrossNR and tube£10.40£7.00 fare difference+79%+84% Ever since contactless travel became the norm, people have got used to swanning round London without knowing what their journey costs. But I wonder how many are paying way over the odds because they don't realise combined train and tube journeys cost the most. Even one stop on the tube can be extortionate if it follows on from the wrong kind of train journey. totally shafted by London's unfairest fare scale.
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I've battled the pop-ups to bring you this list of important stories from local news websites, county by county. Bedfordshire: "Idiotic" driver crashes after showing off during car meet Berkshire: Independent pasta restaurant changes its name after one year Bristol: 'Bonkers' wiggly road markings removed from seafront Buckinghamshire: Aylesbury pub to give away free Pot Noodles this weekend Cambridgeshire: Cows get GPS collars to stop them from falling into river Cheshire: Pendant reunited with man after being found underground in village Cornwall: Cornwall Christmas lights switch-on event is cancelled Cumbria: Three people left upturned kayak at Thirlmere and 'lied about it' Derbyshire: Woman saw ghost on Ryanair flight, and he saluted her Devon: Month-long one-way system for traffic in town centre amid gas pipe upgrade Dorset: Brass horn blown again to celebrate 140th anniversary of railway Durham: Kylie Minogue heads to Seaham beach 'unnoticed' by fans East Sussex: Grandmother threatened with eviction unless she reverses garden makeover Essex: Swarm of bees descend on Brentwood high street Nando's Gloucestershire: Update on £6m Ribena factory electricity revamp plans Hampshire: Adorable "suffering" cats "crying" for their mum who died saved Herefordshire: Huge webs festoon hedges in county countryside Hertfordshire: High Street altercation allegedly damages estate agents window Kent: Mini estate could be built on land currently used as cemetery depot Lancachire: Grey bins could only be emptied once every three weeks under new plans Leicestershire: Pothole blamed for drink-driver swerving in Narborough Road London: Jail-dodging paedo postman caught with corpse and trout porn blames 'disgusting WhatsApp joke' Lincolnshire: Woman told she would 'never make it' wins major Co-op deal Manchester: Robot with Northern Irish ‘Dalek voice’ is shouting threats at walkers at beauty spot Merseyside: Mum calls for supermarket balloon ban after almost being killed on Asda visit Norfolk: Man banned from touching cars that do not belong to him Northamptonshire: Opening date confirmed for newly-renovated tennis courts Northumberland: A busy Tourette Syndrome Awareness Month ahead for Berwick resident Nottinghamshire: Officer allegedly ‘interfered’ with colleague’s trouser zip Oxfordshire: E-scooter seized after being ridden into dead end Rutland: Reading to pets and ‘whole-class teeth cleaning’ praised by school inspectors Shropshire: Patient leaves hospital on same day as hip replacement surgery Somerset: Morrisons CEO sends gifts to Taunton six-year-old Staffordshire: Hamster thrown out with rubbish with a note reading 'do not destroy' Suffolk: Plans for flat above shop in town centre quashed AGAIN Surrey: Exact date Surrey's newest splash pad is set to open Warwickshire: Pig who fathered 70 piglets after jumping farm fence finds a new home West Midlands: Family 'trapped' as Midland street invaded by a million bees West Sussex: Comedian furious after his son is put in school on other side of town Wiltshire: Town park toilets closed after damage caused by wildlife Worcestershire: Bizarre moment traffic in Worcester brought to a halt - by a swan Yorkshire: Huddersfield shop closing after taking £1.20 on a Saturday (sorry for not linking to any of them, but you can always Google)
How long would it take to ride all the Overground lines? I gave it a go, and I started in the obvious place. Intermission two members of staff on duty, one sweeping the platforms and the other holed up in his kiosk in case any situation transpired that required his involvement. This seemed ridiculously unlikely. But perhaps the most surprising thing about Emerson Park is that TfL's Overground rebranding team have completely forgotten it exists. revealed simultaneously on launch day. This reveal happened everywhere else but failed to happen at Emerson Park which means the orange vinyl sticker is still on display, not the proper grey sign underneath. If you wander over to the panel between the Oyster pad and the Help Point you can see a thin grey strip poking above the top of the orange sticker, as yet unrevealed. And if you look closer at the bumps in the vinyl you can clearly see the raised letters L i b e r t y underneath the phrase 'Trains to Romford and Upminster'. at Upminster on the way to platform 6. But somehow the instruction never made it to Emerson Park, so here we are SIX MONTHS LATER with the signage still in its pre-launch state. It's not even an unstaffed station. Those responsible for Overground rebranding should be mighty embarrassed, as should whoever's responsible for managing this station for failing to notice the non-reveal on any of the last 180 days. I hope to see the proper grey sign next time I go back. OK, here comes my first train, start the stopwatch. Liberty line: Emerson Park to Upminster (00:00-00:04) Suffragette line: Barking to Walthamstow Queen's Road (00:23-00:36) Weaver line: Walthamstow Central to Hackney Downs (00:48-00:57) Mildmay line: Hackney Central to Canonbury (01:06-01:10) Windrush line: Canonbury to Highbury and Islington (01:20-01:21) Lioness line: Euston to South Hampstead (01:44-01:48) Tube Challenge online forum the record is 1 hour and 34 minutes, although only one person's ever tried it before which to be perfectly fair isn't exactly surprising. second fastest person ever to ride all six Overground lines. I particularly like how my optimum route started at the least used Overground station, which is Emerson Park, and ended at the second least used Overground station, which is South Hampstead. And it may have been a stupid thing to do but I'd never have noticed the unrevealed Liberty line panel at Emerson Park otherwise, something TfL have yet to do themselves.
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In a world of sprawling Mercato Metropolitanos, Market Halls and Arcade Food Halls, the miniscule Holborn Food Hub is a reminder that food courts come in all shapes and sizes. I'm sure they had very good reasons for filling a space the size of a mobile phone repair shop with fully 3 different food vendors and a ludicrously antisocial arrangement of table and chairs all seemingly piled up on top of each other, as whatever they're doing is working - most days the queue at lunchtime stretches down the street. But we were lucky - and early - enough on a Thursday to bag a small table and order a couple of bits from the 7 Floor Malaysia Tea Room (the name is a bit of a mystery - maybe they started on the 7th floor of somewhere else, as Holborn Food Hub is very definitely on the ground floor). Chicken wings arrived first - robust, healthy things, properly jointed (no wingtips here) and with a lovely bubbly, crackly exterior. Assam Laksa was a giant bowl full of pineapple-spiked seafood broth, topped with sticks of cucumber and pineapple and onion and with a mound of thick Udon-y style noodles (I'm sure there's a Malaysian word for them, sorry) hiding underneath. The aroma as it moved around the room was incredible - and triggered a long-forgotten memory of visiting a hawker still in Kuala Lumpur back when I was just fresh out of university. Back then I probably ended up with something more timid like, well, chicken wings - but it's amazing how long the memory of smells linger as more or less everything else gradually fades. Beef rendang was impeccable - probably the best the capital has to offer, and I've tried a few. There is a surprising amount of very bad rendang in London (the Roti King version is awful - particularly odd when you consider the rest of their offering is decent) but this was doing absolutely everything right, from the complex depth of flavour of the sauce to the beautifully meltingly tender chunks of beef. Also worthy of note was the accompanying sambal which added a beguiling whole new set of umami flavours into the mix. Some slices of cucumber added a welcome salad element, fried shallots (I think they were) added crunch and salty vegetal flavour, and finally a hard boiled egg (because why not) completed the dish. Just like the Assam Laksa, if you were served this from a hawker stall in Malaysia you would be more than happy. There was no printed bill - the girl behind the counter just offered the contactless machine having seemingly done the total in her head - but £41 seemed perfectly reasonable for the amount and quality of food, and I should also mention the service which was so lovely and friendly it was like being invited to eat in someone's front room. Albeit a front room with way too many closely-packed tables and chairs. 9/10
How long would it take to ride all the Overground lines? I gave it a go, and I started in the obvious place. Intermission two members of staff on duty, one sweeping the platforms and the other holed up in his kiosk in case any situation transpired that required his involvement. This seemed ridiculously unlikely. But perhaps the most surprising thing about Emerson Park is that TfL's Overground rebranding team have completely forgotten it exists. revealed simultaneously on launch day. This reveal happened everywhere else but failed to happen at Emerson Park which means the orange vinyl sticker is still on display, not the proper grey sign underneath. If you wander over to the panel between the Oyster pad and the Help Point you can see a thin grey strip poking above the top of the orange sticker, as yet unrevealed. And if you look closer at the bumps in the vinyl you can clearly see the raised letters L i b e r t y underneath the phrase 'Trains to Romford and Upminster'. at Upminster on the way to platform 6. But somehow the instruction never made it to Emerson Park, so here we are SIX MONTHS LATER with the signage still in its pre-launch state. It's not even an unstaffed station. Those responsible for Overground rebranding should be mighty embarrassed, as should whoever's responsible for managing this station for failing to notice the non-reveal on any of the last 180 days. I hope to see the proper grey sign next time I go back. OK, here comes my first train, start the stopwatch. Liberty line: Emerson Park to Upminster (00:00-00:04) Suffragette line: Barking to Walthamstow Queen's Road (00:23-00:36) Weaver line: Walthamstow Central to Hackney Downs (00:48-00:57) Mildmay line: Hackney Central to Canonbury (01:06-01:10) Windrush line: Canonbury to Highbury and Islington (01:20-01:21) Lioness line: Euston to South Hampstead (01:44-01:48) Tube Challenge online forum the record is 1 hour and 34 minutes, although only one person's ever tried it before which to be perfectly fair isn't exactly surprising. second fastest person ever to ride all six Overground lines. I particularly like how my optimum route started at the least used Overground station, which is Emerson Park, and ended at the second least used Overground station, which is South Hampstead. And it may have been a stupid thing to do but I'd never have noticed the unrevealed Liberty line panel at Emerson Park otherwise, something TfL have yet to do themselves.