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An Open Source pioneer, [Brian Behlendorf](https://twitter.com/brianbehlendorf) now leads the effort to build the infrastructure for trust as a service. In the past he helped build the foundations of the Web with [the Apache Foundation](http://www.apache.org/) and brought Open Source to the enterprise with Collab.net. At The Interval he’ll discuss his current work leading [Hyperledger](https://www.hyperledger.org/) at the [Linux Foundation](http://linuxfoundation.org/) to unlock blockchain’s potential beyond cryptocurrency. [Brian Behlendorf](https://twitter.com/brianbehlendorf) is Executive Director for [Hyperledger](https://hyperledger.org), a project of the Linux Foundation. Hyperledger is an open source collaborative effort created to advance cross-industry blockchain technologies. Previously he was the primary developer of the Apache Web server, the most popular web server software on the Internet, and a founding member of the Apache Software Foundation. He was the founding CTO of CollabNet and CTO of the World Economic Forum. Most recently, Behlendorf was a managing director at Mithril Capital Management LLC, a global technology investment firm. He is a long-serving board member of the Mozilla Foundation and the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
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